Turtle Position Top Attacks in BJJ
How to break down the turtle and attack with chokes, back takes, and more
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The turtle position is a common defensive shell players use when threatened with a takedown or back take. For the top player, it represents a high-value opportunity β the back and neck are exposed, and with good technique you can extract the back or finish directly.
Clock Choke
The clock choke is the most reliable direct finish from turtle. One hand grips deep in the far collar while you walk your legs in a circular arc (like clock hands) to apply pressure. The wrist bone digs into the carotid as you step. Master the grip depth β it must be blade-side of the wrist, not the palm.
Anaconda and D'Arce from Turtle
Threading your arm under the neck from turtle position gives access to the anaconda choke (head and arm choke with your arm through) or D'Arce (from the opposite side). Both require good penetration of the arm before the opponent can tuck their chin.
Back Take from Turtle
The most valuable outcome from turtle is often taking the back. Establish your seatbelt grip first, then work to insert the hooks. The granby roll is the primary counter β learn to recognize when it's coming and switch your hip in response.
Harness Roll (Peruvian Necktie)
From a front headlock on the turtle, you can apply the Peruvian necktie by grabbing the near leg, driving the head down, and rolling. This creates a triangle-like choke as your legs wrap around the opponent's neck during the roll.
Leg Attacks from Turtle
The turtle exposes the legs. Ankle picks, heel hooks, and leg locks become available. The inside heel hook is accessible when the opponent's knee points up β thread your arm between their legs and secure the heel before they can flatten.
Pressure and Control
- Keep chest pressure on top of turtle to prevent rolling
- Use double underhooks to lift and destabilize
- Control the wrists to prevent the granby roll
- Stay light on your feet for circular movement
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Frequently Asked Questions
How long does it take to learn Turtle Top Attacks?
Most practitioners develop functional competency with Turtle Top Attacks within 3β6 months of consistent drilling. Mastery β the ability to execute reliably in live rolling against resisting opponents β typically takes 1β2 years.
Is Turtle Top Attacks effective for beginners?
Yes. Turtle Top Attacks is part of the core BJJ curriculum and taught at all belt levels. Beginners should focus on the fundamental mechanics and concepts before refining advanced entries.
How often should I drill Turtle Top Attacks?
3β5 times per week is ideal for rapid skill acquisition. Even 10 focused repetitions per session compounds over time β consistency matters more than volume.
What positions connect to Turtle Top Attacks?
BJJ is a linked system. Turtle Top Attacks flows naturally to and from related positions. Study transitions in both directions to build a complete positional game.
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What are the most common submissions from turtle top?
The most common submissions from turtle top are the far-side armbar, the kimura, and the clock choke (also known as the Ezekiel choke from turtle). These attacks leverage the opponent's static position to create opportunities for joint locks and chokes.
How do I prevent my opponent from rolling away when I attack turtle?
To prevent rolling, maintain tight control of your opponent's hips and frame your body to block their escape routes. Use your weight and pressure to keep them grounded, and be ready to adjust your grip if they attempt to shrimp or bridge out.
What are the basic principles for controlling the turtle position as the top player?
The key principles are to maintain heavy pressure, control both hips, and prevent your opponent from creating space or turning into you. Secure a strong base and use your chest and shoulders to pin them, limiting their movement and setting up your attacks.
Common BJJ Problems & FAQ
This fatigue often stems from using excessive upper body strength to drive your opponent's turtle. Instead, focus on using your hips and core to create leverage; drive your chest into their back and use your legs to control their hips, allowing your arms to focus on grip fighting and submission mechanics.
To prevent shrimping, anchor your hip bone into their hip bone, creating a sticky connection. Simultaneously, use your opposite leg to hook their ankle or calf, preventing them from creating space and initiating the shrimp movement.
To secure an arm-in position for a choke, drive your shoulder into their carotid artery and use your opposite hand to peel their arm away from their neck. Then, as you drive your chest into their back, slide your forearm deep under their chin, ensuring your bicep is pressed against their neck.