Von Flue Choke: Defense to Escape Submission from Back Control

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Contents

    The Von Flue Choke Overview

    The Von Flue choke is a defense against the rear naked choke applied from back control position. Instead of escaping, you counter-attack with your own choke using the opponent's arm placement against them.

    Setup and Mechanics

    When Opponent Applies RNC

    As your opponent applies the rear naked choke from back control, they position their arms around your neck. The Von Flue counter uses the space created by their arm placement to apply a counter-choke.

    The Grip Sequence

    Grab opponent's arm that's going across your neck. Push it upward and tight against their own neck. Use your other hand to clasp and reinforce the grip. Apply pressure by driving their arm further into their own neck.

    Critical Timing

    The Von Flue is most effective when applied early as opponent locks in the rear naked choke, before they fully secure the grip. However, even if they have partial grip, you can still execute this counter.

    Prevention and Escape

    Defending the Von Flue

    If you're applying the rear naked choke and your opponent attempts the Von Flue, immediately move your choking arm to a different position (over/under arm or gable grip) to prevent them from controlling your arm.

    Related Chokes and Escapes

    Frequently Asked Questions

    How long does it take to learn Von Flue Choke Guide?

    Most practitioners develop functional competency with Von Flue Choke Guide within 3–6 months of consistent drilling. Mastery β€” the ability to execute reliably in live rolling against resisting opponents β€” typically takes 1–2 years.

    Is Von Flue Choke Guide effective for beginners?

    Yes. Von Flue Choke Guide is part of the core BJJ curriculum and taught at all belt levels. Beginners should focus on the fundamental mechanics and concepts before refining advanced entries.

    How often should I drill Von Flue Choke Guide?

    3–5 times per week is ideal for rapid skill acquisition. Even 10 focused repetitions per session compounds over time β€” consistency matters more than volume.

    What positions connect to Von Flue Choke Guide?

    BJJ is a linked system. Von Flue Choke Guide flows naturally to and from related positions. Study transitions in both directions to build a complete positional game.

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    More Questions

    What is the main goal when defending the Von Flue choke from back control?

    The primary goal is to prevent the choke from being fully applied by creating space and disrupting the opponent's grip. This involves turning your head and creating a wedge with your shoulder to alleviate pressure.

    How do I escape if my opponent has a strong Von Flue choke from the back?

    If the choke is tight, focus on turning your head towards the side of the choking arm and driving your shoulder into their chest to create space. Simultaneously, try to bring your hips towards them to relieve pressure and create an opportunity to peel their arm off.

    What are common mistakes people make when defending the Von Flue from the back?

    A common mistake is panicking and giving up space by arching away from the choke, which often makes it worse. Another error is not actively trying to create space with your head and shoulder, instead just passively enduring the pressure.

    Common BJJ Problems & FAQ

    Q: Why does my neck feel like it's being crushed when someone tries the Von Flue Choke from back control and how can I stop it?

    The Von Flue choke applies pressure by driving your opponent's shoulder into your carotid artery while your own arm acts as a fulcrum. To defend, immediately tuck your chin tightly to your chest, creating a barrier that prevents their shoulder from reaching the artery and simultaneously creates space to begin shrimping your hips out.

    Q: How can I escape the Von Flue Choke when my opponent has me in back control and I can't breathe?

    To escape, immediately drive your shoulder that is being choked into your opponent's chest, creating a wedge to stop the compression. Simultaneously, attempt to turn your body towards the choked side, using your free arm to push their hips away and create space to roll or shrimp out.

    Q: What is the best way to prevent the Von Flue Choke from back control if I'm smaller than my opponent?

    As a smaller person, prioritize keeping your head and neck mobile by actively tucking your chin and creating a strong base. When they attempt the choke, immediately use your frame to push their choking arm away at the elbow and elbow their ribs, creating distance and disrupting their ability to establish the necessary leverage for the submission.

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