Von Flue Choke: Defense to Escape Submission from Back Control

Last updated: 2026-03-16 | Difficulty: πŸ₯‹πŸ₯‹πŸ₯‹ Advanced

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The Von Flue Choke Overview

The Von Flue choke is a defense against the rear naked choke applied from back control position. Instead of escaping, you counter-attack with your own choke using the opponent's arm placement against them.

Setup and Mechanics

When Opponent Applies RNC

As your opponent applies the rear naked choke from back control, they position their arms around your neck. The Von Flue counter uses the space created by their arm placement to apply a counter-choke.

The Grip Sequence

Grab opponent's arm that's going across your neck. Push it upward and tight against their own neck. Use your other hand to clasp and reinforce the grip. Apply pressure by driving their arm further into their own neck.

Critical Timing

The Von Flue is most effective when applied early as opponent locks in the rear naked choke, before they fully secure the grip. However, even if they have partial grip, you can still execute this counter.

Prevention and Escape

Defending the Von Flue

If you're applying the rear naked choke and your opponent attempts the Von Flue, immediately move your choking arm to a different position (over/under arm or gable grip) to prevent them from controlling your arm.

Related Chokes and Escapes

Frequently Asked Questions

How long does it take to learn Von Flue Choke Guide?

Most practitioners develop functional competency with Von Flue Choke Guide within 3–6 months of consistent drilling. Mastery β€” the ability to execute reliably in live rolling against resisting opponents β€” typically takes 1–2 years.

Is Von Flue Choke Guide effective for beginners?

Yes. Von Flue Choke Guide is part of the core BJJ curriculum and taught at all belt levels. Beginners should focus on the fundamental mechanics and concepts before refining advanced entries.

How often should I drill Von Flue Choke Guide?

3–5 times per week is ideal for rapid skill acquisition. Even 10 focused repetitions per session compounds over time β€” consistency matters more than volume.

What positions connect to Von Flue Choke Guide?

BJJ is a linked system. Von Flue Choke Guide flows naturally to and from related positions. Study transitions in both directions to build a complete positional game.

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